3.14chan

File: 78694.jpg - (36.54kb, 460x276) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

Anonymous 17/5/2009(Sun)10:34:02 No.35448

[Reply]

What is art?

To the untrained eye, they appear to be just a mess made by a toddler. To a art expert this is a Work of a Master, almost half of her works had sold before the opening of her first exhibition at the Brunswick Street Gallery in Melbourne.

33 post(s) and 53 image reply(s) omitted. Click Reply to view.

Sigmund Langley 26/7/2009(Sun)01:15:17 No.134497

File: 13_ib4f.gif - (1.12kb, 264x185)

>>134362
Do you mean that this is art (a representation of a golden ring)

Edited at 26/7/2009(Sun)01:17:55

Sigmund Langley 26/7/2009(Sun)01:17:22 No.134504

File: abstract-art-wallpaper_ib4f.jpg - (29.5kb, 400x300)

>>134362
but this is not because it doesn't represents anything real (I would say "it represents it self and since I made it it is real now")

Kashmir Norris 27/7/2009(Mon)06:35:08 No.136108

>>134504
I said art has to have form. That doesn't mean it has to be representative. And it is bad logic to imply that what has form is art in my thoughts.

File: license533_ib4f.jpg - (91.54kb, 533x341) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

Licenses Anonymous 06/7/2009(Mon)01:57:07 No.101519

[Reply]

Whenever I hear political debacles about legalizing this, or changing the legal age on that, I always throw in the possibility of a full license system. Has anyone else ever thought about this?

I'm the biggest advocate on this for alcohol. I think the drinking age should remain where it is, but licenses should be administered (upon certified alcohol abuse/effects/etc. training) that allow one to buy and consume alcoholic beverages. This has potential to greatly decrease the number of binge drinking health problems (both short and long term) and even drunk driving injuries. Knowledge is power, and a license is a way to prove that you know your shit about what you're putting into your body, what it can do to you, and what it can do to others.

I also think that licenses would be effective in smoking, voting (so those under 18 who barely missed the cut can vote, not to weed out "bad" voters), and even the legalization of prostitution (they can learn the mental effects of whoring

Message too long. Click here to view the full text.

12 post(s) and 6 image reply(s) omitted. Click Reply to view.

Kurz Herschel 22/7/2009(Wed)09:30:39 No.131937

Moving on, people could be measured in multiple dimensions, and the average of these values could set a standard. As Giordano said, the mentally retarded still have value.

In a state economy, workers could be employed based on their skills, and bred for them within castes.

Sigmund Langley 23/7/2009(Thu)03:15:28 No.132543

The main problem with a IQ based eugenics is the idea that avoid the reproduction of "stupid people" would lead to smarter humans.

This seems logic at first but doesn't really works well in real world. In real world "stupid people" have more children than "smart people" but population's IQ is increasing instead of decreasing.

Eugenics by discouraging reproduction by persons having genetic defects or presumed to have inheritable undesirable traits (negative eugenics) or encouraging reproduction by persons presumed to have inheritable desirable traits (positive eugenics) were tried in past, we even had genius sperm banks but they didn't worked as expected and were abandoned. To be fair not every eugenic measure were abandoned. We have some Pretty good measures like prenatal care (solve problems before it affect the fetus or minimize the effects)

Also a some genes in heterozygosity generates a benefical trait but becomes a disease in homozygous.

Armand 26/7/2009(Sun)11:20:31 No.135050

>>132543

>In real world "stupid people" have more children than "smart people" but population's IQ is increasing instead of decreasing.

This doesn't prove that selection of smarter people wouldn't increase the overall intelligence of human race. Have you ever thought that increase of IQ on the past decades might be explained by cultural evolution? The environment of people has no doub become more complex by the past decades.

>genius sperm banks but they didn't worked as expected and were abandoned

I do not have much knowlage of the american genious sperm bank but what I know of it is that it worked. It was simply adandoned because the guy doing the thing was unable to continue his work(because of his death if I remember right) and people didn't like the idea of it. Luckily some of the idea still lives in the sperm doning business. The customers are offered information about the doner candidates.

(Traditional) eugenics isn't necessary about getting super results in few years (though we might get them), it is about steadily increasing (or sustaining) the quality of the human race by centuries and milleniums. It is an undeniable fact that genes affect the IQ of a person. Traditional (by that I mean eugenics that is based on modern knowlage but doesn't include genetical engineering) eugenics doesn't only increase the number of desirable genetical traits but it causes cultural evolution too because parents have a greater envinronmental effect on their offspring that strangers.

File: 12438394738_ib4f.gif - (115.15kb, 256x192) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

Jaroslav Van Houten 03/7/2009(Fri)01:59:59 No.97930

[Reply]

What are the best fields to go into?

Some of you seem to be scientists and such, I want your opinions.

4 post(s) omitted. Click Reply to view.

Gersonides Salamah 06/7/2009(Mon)12:56:44 No.101437

Statistics. Hands down. The top 3 jobs in America (based on pay, work time, workplace environment, etc.) are stats-based. Entrepreneurs are understanding that they can't afford to take risks and are becoming more willing to fix things proactively which statisticians will help accomplish.

Franklin Murphy 13/7/2009(Mon)06:52:49 No.111951

Chemistry, physics, maths (stats as said).

The last years, everyone began to thing that economy's going to do magically everything that needs to be done, and everyone went to economical studies. Add to that the fact that our generation somehow began to think it'll be possible to have fun all life long and be successfull without actually working.

I'm in a science university where we are 3 to grade in our speciality in the entire fucking region.

I see friends who went for economical or political studies who are struggling to find summer jobs, who are battling with hundreds of people to enter a school.

I just had to ask and I got 4 job offers for this summer, and have been accepted in every school I asked for.
Because science is actual work, and as nobody wants to do that there is a real need for scientists.

Seriously, if you don't hate science, go for it.

Hanni-Mari Ellicott-Chatham 20/7/2009(Mon)07:55:17 No.127360

>>111951
>Seriously, if you don't hate science, go for it.

I, for one, want to. I really do.
But I didn't realize that I actually love it until recently. I'm already in the arts, and am successful here. I'm 20, never really liked nor have been great at math, and I'm wondering if it's stupid to even consider doing anything serious with science and if I should just keep that passion as a hobby. It's so late in the game, it seems. Going back to school for that would be nice, but it's not something I have the funds for.

????

File: 136598.jpg - (30.4kb, 380x253) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

R!fUkAovgQ0c 13/6/2009(Sat)01:08:00 No.64154

[Reply]

I got 2 interpretations for the forbidden fruit.
One is that represents the begin of civilization.
This is when humanity would no longer work just for survivor, humanity started to work for production.

A much better idea is that eat the forbidden fruit is something that every person do during life. It's whem we understand the idea of right and wrong.

Sorry for any english mistake...

10 post(s) and 1 image reply(s) omitted. Click Reply to view.

Anita Lehtola Herschel 08/7/2009(Wed)12:09:48 No.106069

>>102702
I see religion the same way I see mythology. They are cool stories and I like to discuss about them, but I don't really believe on them. The same goes to Hercules, Star Wars, The Lord Of The Rings, Evangelion, Fullmetal Alchemist...

R!fUkAovgQ0c 08/7/2009(Wed)12:16:42 No.106085

>>102702
See
>>80751
>Suppose you are studying Moby-Dick. Anybody with any common sense would say Moby-Dick is a big white whale, since the characters in the book refer to it as a big white whale roughly eleven thousand times. So in your paper, you say Moby-Dick is actually the Republic of Ireland. Your professor, who is sick to death of reading papers and never liked Moby-Dick anyway, will think you are enormously creative.
>� Dave Barry, "College Admissions"

Teresa Emelianenko 11/7/2009(Sat)01:46:16 No.108423

>>106085

Oh, so true. I think you can get many things out of literal terms, and some people overanalyze.

File: Embedded Video

Materialism is good. Anonymous 29/5/2009(Fri)09:12:21 No.49980

[Reply]

Why is materialism supposed to be wrong? We are part of the material world and apart from our sapience it may well be pretty much all we are, it is impossible to solve problems, fulfil hedonistic desires, discover the truth or whatever it is that you've set your heart on without embracing this fact.

It is unethical to ignore reality in favor of blunt abstract ideology because only rational thinkers are capable of making the realistic physical changes needed, not just to people's behaviour but to the infrastructure, technology, organisation and industries of nations. I believe anyone who is not a materialist is inherantly immoral and corrupt.

8 post(s) and 4 image reply(s) omitted. Click Reply to view.

Anonymous 27/6/2009(Sat)04:15:08 No.88284

>>80505
Love can't be quantified simply because it cannot be measured, or at least not with any accuracy since we do have methods of detecting brain activity.

Perhaps you cannot reason correctly and confuse love with the property of being sapient which cannot be measured whatsoever. Whatever you are arguing I must be right since I included that in my original argument, which is that although there may be more than a material world we have very little control over it, even over ourselves, so communism and so forth won't work. We need to embrace materialism.

Anonymous 28/6/2009(Sun)08:48:45 No.89665

File: 183422.gif - (2.25kb, 310x300)

>>88284
I hadn't finished readign your argument, so I reacted too quickly. There is alredy an answer to thiI hadn't finished readign your argument, so I reacted too quickly. There is already an answer to this threads question

It need not be explained again

Jaroslav Van Houten 02/7/2009(Thu)04:17:57 No.96679

What people typically call materialism is the heartless, amoral quest for luxury and/or power.

I think both are/were driven by the lack of a large-scale, well-organized system which guarantees human survival.

That is the point of civilization (to achieve the large-scale presence and organization of such a system).

Edited at 03/7/2009(Fri)02:02:32

File: 187338.png - (69.75kb, 729x520) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

Anonymous 29/6/2009(Mon)05:25:16 No.90401

[Reply]

lol so much true!

A little more
They say that TV melts your brain but IQ scores and average education are steadily upward.
The same goes to internet.
They say that violent videogames make youth violent but today with all those extreme violent games (God of War, GTA, etc...) but youth violent crime rates are decreasing in U.S.

Every generation thinks of themselves as better than the others and this is the same since ancient times.

1 post(s) omitted. Click Reply to view.

Anonymous 29/6/2009(Mon)07:18:18 No.90961

>>90947
What did they say there?

Anonymous 30/6/2009(Tue)02:36:43 No.91792

>>90961
A bunch of stupid 4chan shit.

Anonymous 30/6/2009(Tue)09:54:36 No.92975

>>91792
lol, pretty much