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Anonymous 29/6/2009(Mon)03:27:45 No.90900  
Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice..you don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses...
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Anonymous 30/6/2009(Tue)03:35:11 No.92350
prove it
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Friedrich House 02/7/2009(Thu)12:01:51 No.94061
>>92350
He can't, he is dead.
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Jaroslav Van Houten 02/7/2009(Thu)04:04:34 No.96623
This is thick cynicism, but it's driven by a profound observation: The wrong choices are being made.

Why is that happening?
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Czeslaw Astley 03/7/2009(Fri)02:17:06 No.97631
the fact that he is dead is proof enough to me that he is right
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Jean Neylon 04/7/2009(Sat)07:58:49 No.99475
>It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.

This was a really thought-provoking passage, that in particular brought several questions to my mind. When I tried to analyze this all, myself taking a sort of centrist view of politics, I compared it to Locke's theory of the Social Contract, naturally. Specifically, are we closer to being justly governed or owned? To what degree is the latter acceptable, either in idealism or by the real laws of sociology? If we are at a level of oppression, economic and with regards to liberty, too high by an idealistic standard (Which one?), is it really intolerable? Should we revolt for the liberty of ourselves and our children, or respect the status quo? Could we do better? What is the best course of action? I guess Jaroslav put it a lot more succinctly than I ended up doing.
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Sergeivich Bacon 05/7/2009(Sun)07:38:17 No.101312
fucking communist.
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Faustina Langley 07/7/2009(Tue)05:09:27 No.102695
>>101312
Yeah. They never learn, do they?
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Anita Lehtola Herschel 11/7/2009(Sat)06:39:02 No.109193
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Franklin Murphy 13/7/2009(Mon)06:44:49 No.111948
That's because you're not a winner enough to become one of the owner.
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Pembroke Miyamoto 18/7/2009(Sat)06:22:51 No.125354
>>94061
I guess that settles it then. I'm going to make some ginger and grapefruit peel tea.
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Franklin Calvin 19/7/2009(Sun)07:22:55 No.126958
>>109193

This is the most bullshit graph I have ever seen. The only remotely true part of that graph is the student loan and even that can be fixed if you don't major in something useless like history or psychology.

Here's a mind shattering idea: Don't fucking spend what you can't afford! I don't care if Jesus himself tells you that carrying debt on your cards is okay; it's not. By treating your credit card like your debit card, you'll never be in credit card debt again. Can't afford that vacation this summer? Boo fucking hoo, don't go. Can't afford to pay off your car loan in 3 years or your house in 15? Shouldn't have bought something so expensive that you couldn't afford.
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Jaroslav Van Houten 25/7/2009(Sat)09:01:54 No.134333
>>126958

Here's the problem... It's not that simple.

People's basic physical needs aren't being met. Their basic psychological needs aren't being met.

(On top of that, they are exposed to pointless and/or untrue and/or irrelevant information fom birth.)

So, they are forced to look anywhere, everywhere for a substitute. Many of these substitutes are inappropriate and/or insufficient.
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Arazlam Hobbes 30/9/2009(Wed)05:38:35 No.286500
I think that perhaps the most ironic part of all of this is the price of housing. Since houses are relatively cheap compared to what they actually sell for, most of what you are paying for is artificial (land value and profit margins, mostly). This artificial cost is caused by the demand and willingness of people to pay high prices because of the perceived value of simply owning a home.

...Basically, if we all went to cheap housing (house sharing, co-opted apartments, etc.), the price would plummet...this is of course neglecting the feedback affect of low prices spurning sales...
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Aleksander Robin 04/10/2009(Sun)05:14:49 No.291409
>>126958
I think psychology must be utterly relevant to this subject.

I wish this board was faster.
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Gersonides House 04/10/2009(Sun)07:47:50 No.291553
i have a social security number that transfers my worked wealth to other people's potential wealth pools temporarily and returns gains/losses to my wealth depending on my loyalty, sounds a lot like indentured servitude.

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